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kayla Posted at 2007/04/11 9:33pm reply to

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i have been struggling with something i do every year on thanksgiving.. yep, i eat turkey.  the first year i went veg i had every intention of not eating the turkey.  but when my mom started crying and my grandfather refused to speak to me, i just had to give in.  so now i just eat turkey every thanksgiving to avoid this unnecessary family strife.  i don't feel good about myself when i do this, during or afterwards, but i feel it is something i just must do.  it somewhat consoles me that my parents buy the turkey from a local farmer who only raises a few turkeys each year and treats them very well. they are humanely slaughtered and i feel they are lucky to not have been raised on factory farms. i am sure that many of you would now consider me not vegan, but that's untrue.  but considering that i am an activist, all in all, i do more for animals than those vegans who don't do their part to get the word out there. i welcome any comments and/or constructive criticisms.

*note from Ross: guys, THIS IS A JOKE*
Craig? Posted at 2007/04/11 9:40pm reply to

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hmmmm.

I don't mean to come off like a dick, but I don't think that's very vegan.  Why can't your family just accept you the way you are?  Better yet, why can't you grow a spine and stand up to them?  You only make vegans look wishy-washy when you show people we aren't willing to live by our own standards.  "Humanely slaughtered" is on the long list of terms to make my blood boil.  I can't even believe a vegan would use such rhetoric crap.

Tell your family where to shove it.  Just my two cents....
kayla Posted at 2007/04/11 9:44pm reply to

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>hmmmm.
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>I don't mean to come off like a dick, but I don't think that's very vegan.  Why can't your family just accept you the way you are?  Better yet, why can't you grow a spine and stand up to them?  You only make vegans look wishy-washy when you show people we aren't willing to live by our own standards.  "Humanely slaughtered" is on the long list of terms to make my blood boil.  I can't even believe a vegan would use such rhetoric crap.
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>Tell your family where to shove it.  Just my two cents....


you've never met my mother.  watching her cry is something i will do anything to avoid.  and i would hardly call myself wishy-washy considering how much i do for the animals the rest of the year.  just out of curiousity, what do YOU do as far as getting the word out about animal rights?  (and those turkeys ARE humanely slaughtered - any of us would be lucky to go as quickly and painlessly as those turkeys.)
Craig? Posted at 2007/04/11 9:48pm reply to

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I think watching your mother cry is a small price to pay for doing the right thing.  I've watched my mom cry on countless occasions... you get used to it.

Kayla, I hate to say this, but I don't think VRA is the place for you.  Maybe Freegans Rawk Austin?  I dunno.
kayla Posted at 2007/04/11 9:50pm reply to

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you know what, craig?  maybe Texas isn't the place for you.  i know you're from houston, but alabama seems more up your alley.  their backwards way of thinking will make you feel right at home.  
Craig? Posted at 2007/04/11 9:51pm reply to

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eat shit and die you whore.
kayla Posted at 2007/04/11 9:53pm reply to

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you know what, i think it's time you made a little confession of your own, craig.  and you know EXACTLY what i'm talking about.
chris Posted at 2007/04/11 9:59pm reply to

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i almost forgot thanksgiving was just around the corner.  god bless us every one.

wtf just happened?
Craig? Posted at 2007/04/11 9:59pm reply to

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and........ SCENE!

sorry everyone, we got bored.  I was hoping for some "taking us seriously hate mail" but Kayla is a wuss.
kayla Posted at 2007/04/11 10:01pm reply to

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i'm not a wuss!  i was just a little... apprehensive.
jeff Posted at 2007/04/11 10:19pm reply to

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You jive turkeys!  Bravo, Craig, on the "eat shit and die you whore"--a tour de force of method acting.

happy
Ross Posted at 2007/04/11 10:45pm reply to

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hoooo-...ly shit.

we were in the middle of lost at the lost pizza party and john was reading the board on his laptop and we all go "WHAT THE FUCK!!? Holy shit!! Drama!!!"

totally shat our pants.

good show, good show.
Craig? Posted at 2007/04/12 12:05am reply to

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:bows:
jen Posted at 2007/04/12 8:38am reply to

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>>we were in the middle of lost at the lost pizza party and john was reading >>the board on his laptop

and i thought lost night couldn't get ANY nerdier! happy
kayla Posted at 2007/04/12 9:04am reply to

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>:bows:

the whore also bows.
Tiffanny Posted at 2007/04/12 11:41am reply to

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kayla, i am sorry for your dillema. here's my suggestion: YOU CRY TOO. just lay it on. before you eat that turkey, BAWL, CRY PAINFUL CRIES, AND SHOW YOUR EMOTION. Maybe she will see how important it is to you that no meat touch your lips. The power of tears she has on you, USE IT AGAINST HER. If she has no respect for your tears, than you don't have to respect hers.. You have the heart of a vegan, you just don't have the street smarts to live among meat eaters yet.

my dillema is that on these dang business trips to corpus, our team lunches are always at either steakhouses or seafood houses. now i'm always compromising with meat eaters, going to these business lunches at their fave places, i often wonder why just once we can't go to a more neutral place where both vegetarian and meat are served. ARGH. today we are interviewing a guy at a steakhouse. Looks like I'll be sipping water the whole time and going hungry angry
Jacob Posted at 2007/04/12 12:39pm reply to

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>you've never met my mother.  watching her cry is something i will do anything to avoid.  and i would hardly call myself wishy-washy considering how much i do for the animals the rest of the year.  just out of curiousity, what do YOU do as far as getting the word out about animal rights?  (and those turkeys ARE humanely slaughtered - any of us would be lucky to go as quickly and painlessly as those turkeys.)

I know how bad it is to see a family member cry.  Every year the men in my family go on a week long deer hunting trip.  I feel really bad about shooting deer, but I feel like I have to to keep my mentally-disabled brother from crying.  I do cry myself everytime I pull the trigger, but I know it's better for my brother and better for the deer because I humanly shoot it with twelve-guage round.  I know you probably don't think that it's very vegan, but it is because for every day I'm not killing animals, I'm loving them twice as much.
Tiffanny Posted at 2007/04/12 1:16pm reply to

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HOLY CRAP. Now, WHY do you HAVE to pull the trigger?? can't you just hang out with them but not partake in the killing??? can you just miss? say you're a terrible shot??? WHY would it hurt your brother for you to NOT kill a deer? I don't understand this.

kayla, i was just thinking, why can't you just have a heart to heart with your mom? tell her it's nothing personal, you love her, you just can't eat turkey.

i just odn't understand why talking can't resolve any of this.

kayla Posted at 2007/04/12 1:41pm reply to

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> I feel really bad about shooting deer, but I feel like I have to to keep my mentally-disabled brother from crying.  


my mother is mentally disabled as well - makes the tears she cries hurt twice as much, or at least 1 1/2 times as much.  
mattabo71 Posted at 2007/04/12 1:59pm reply to

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Y'know, thanks to in-breeding, over 90% of all turkeys are ALSO mentally disabled -- they cry too.
karen Posted at 2007/04/12 2:06pm reply to

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this thread has just gone to the deep end. good god.
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