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Vegan Cat Kibble
. Posted at 2007/04/06 7:21pm reply to

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carrie Posted at 2007/04/12 8:09pm reply to

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>because the discussions aren't limited to austin happy and because there aren't all the vegans to talk to in galveston?
>anyway, no prob heidi! i hope cricket does well, i know mark and carrie were feeding their cats vegan for a while. they used a mixture that included tofu in addition to this cat mix they bought(i believe), but they're not doing it anymore as they weren't certain the cats were doing well on it...i'll let them elaborate if either sees this thread and wants to add.

Yes, our cats were vegan for almost a year. They were both very skinny, and I had a hard time getting them to eat it. We had the most luck with evolution kibble. They liked it a lot, but you need to give the cats wet food as well. The evolution web site is incredibly detailed and goes into this matter. Anyhow, they seemed unhealthy. I never told a vet they were veggie, but they all seemed to think were a little thin. I finally contacted the Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights (AVAR) and asked for their opinion. They said they had recently changed their organization's stance on vegan cats. Whereas they had previously deemed it acceptable they now did not recommend a strict 100 percent vegan diet for cats. They think a 50/50 vegan food/meat food diet is okay. They came to this conclusion based on some tests done with vegecat food.

I read Obligate Carnivore and was very inspired by it. However, even Jed Gillen has altered his stance on vegan cat food. He says that if you're not going to be extremely vigilant with the various food supplements and vitamins thn you shouldn't feed your cat a strictly 100% vegan diet, primarily male cats because of their urinary tract.

My cats didn't do well on a vegan diet, but if your cat gets a kitty physical and they're doing well and you're vigilant about the supplements, the enzymes, measuring how much they eat etc; then great. Go vegans!
lmillar3 Posted at 2007/04/21 1:47pm reply to

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So I am a "newbie" here and don't want to ruffle too many feathers, but this is an interesting area of discussion. I love animals and have 3 cats. Now already I might be at a disadvantage in my "argument" because I have pets, but I wonder if it is really fair of us human vegans to "force" our lifestyle and choices on a group that cannot speak for themselves. If a cat is in the wild and hunts/eats birds, squirrels, and other small "meat" animals by nature how can we force them to eat as herbivores to serve our own ideals? You are making a defenseless creature do something it would not do on its own in nature. I feel like some of you have also given some proof to this argument with your comments on how difficult it has been to make your cat go through the "transition" and how some even refuse to eat the vegan food. PETA has a very helpful list of pet food manufacturers that do not test on animals and that they deem acceptable to give to your little furry friends. I realize this is a tricky area for vegans and while I am 100% for being a vegan in my life, I do not think it is fair for me to make that decision for my little kitties who by nature want, even need, to eat meat - I might be wrong but I do not think there are any vegan felines in the world (other than those being given that diet by their human companions).
Ross Posted at 2007/04/21 5:16pm reply to

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I think that the fact of the matter is, no matter what food you choose to feed your pet- you are ultimately making the decision for your pet what it's going to eat. You're basically making the choice to support the life of your cat over the life of other animals(likely factory-farmed in most foods). I'm a little more wary of the idea of feeding a cat vegan since many people haven't had much luck with it, but I feel totally confident in feedings dogs a vegan diet.
lmillar3 Posted at 2007/04/21 6:48pm reply to

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Ross you make some good points - I did admit that I was already a step back in my argument because I own pets and am therefore "controlling" another being, but I think it is important to try and keep key ingredients in an animals diet that they themselves would include if they were on their own (talk about a run-on sentence). My main point was that a cat is not going to be vegan unless they are forced and I just worry about what that does to them physically and psychologically. I also might be putting too much trust in PETA, but I cannot imagine they would tell their followers to feed their companion animals food that is processed in the exact way they are devoted to "stopping" (please correct if I am wrong as I will gladly look into alternatives).

I do agree with your idea on dogs and a vegan diet. Dogs do seem to eat anything and everything, haha, and there is not as much difficulty in transitioning them to a vegan meal plan.
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