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whole foods vegan chicken salad!?
jen Posted at 2008/04/09 5:17pm reply to

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um, so i was looking at the reviews for this chicken (not) salad mix on vegan essentials (i heart chicken(not)!).  anyway, check out this one review:

>> Quite Tasty
>>From Anonymous of durham, North Carolina on 8/14/2004.

>>This chicken(not) salad mix was very good. The chunks were a bit larger than >>the vegan chicken salad in the Whole Foods Deli, but it was still very >>satisfying.


so apparently in 8/04 the whole foods in durham, nc carried vegan chicken salad.  i'm so jealous.  has anyone ever seen anything like this in the austin whole foods?  there was a brand sold in pennsylvania/nj health food stores that had a chicken salad sandwich that was SO good, but i heard they went out of business (probably like 5 years ago).  a new alternative would be awesome.

i think we need to create a list of items we've seen at other whole foods and then chain ourself to the whole foods dowtown until they agree to provide us with said items.  who's in? :-)

ps. i bought the chicken (not) brand.  i'll let you know how it is when i get it.
Jacob Posted at 2008/04/09 7:19pm reply to

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I don't even need a reason to chain myself to whole foods downtown.  awesome
Just let me know when, and I'll get my chains....
Craig? Posted at 2008/04/09 10:52pm reply to

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yeah, they ARE the flagship store and whatnot.  they should carry EVERYTHING.  well, everything vegan that is.  they could just dump all that meat, cheese and eggs to make room. happy
Gabriel Posted at 2008/04/09 11:05pm reply to

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>yeah, they ARE the flagship store and whatnot.  they should carry EVERYTHING.  well, everything vegan that is.  they could just dump all that meat, cheese and eggs to make room. happy

Craig, that is an AWESOME idea!!!  I wish we had a fully vegan WFM.
Jacob Posted at 2008/04/10 9:50am reply to

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I'm sure the reason why whole foods downtown doesn't go 100% vegan is because they fear that they would lose some of their nonvegan customers.  But in reality, they would gain the trust of the vegan community and we would shop there as our primary grocery story, and at the same time, nonvegans would shop there too because anybody can eat vegan food, not just vegans!

We should start a petition!
Craig? Posted at 2008/04/10 11:32am reply to

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I think an 80,000 square foot all vegan grocery store just may convince every vegan in the country to move to Austin.

sadly, my realistic side knows this is as much of as a pipe dream as Nader 2008.
Ross Posted at 2008/04/10 11:55am reply to

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Hah...while I'd love it of course, their customer numbers would drop hard. That's a huge store to support off of only vegan products.

>I'm sure the reason why whole foods downtown doesn't go 100% vegan is because they fear that they would lose some of their nonvegan customers.  But in reality, they would gain the trust of the vegan community and we would shop there as our primary grocery story, and at the same time, nonvegans would shop there too because anybody can eat vegan food, not just vegans!
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>We should start a petition!
mattabo71 Posted at 2008/04/10 12:25pm reply to

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>Hah...while I'd love it of course, their customer numbers would drop hard. That's a huge store to support off of only vegan products.

yeah - you're right -- Wheatsville is smaller, and will have a much easier time with it -- right, Wheatsville? (oh, and get rid of your plastic bags while you're at it..)
Gabriel Posted at 2008/04/10 12:27pm reply to

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Dude, I'd totally settle for a vegan Wheatsville....
lmillar3 Posted at 2008/04/10 12:51pm reply to

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I read an interview with John Mackey a while back and he basically said that while he is vegan and he would love to make Whole Foods vegan it is not really a practical thing (business wise) and at least he is still bringing awareness about animal welfare to the masses. I think he has a very good point and from what I understand WFM really does try to make sure that they carry responsible items. I think in some ways WFM has led to other stores carrying organic and "free range" items (granted you can't always take that at face value) because of the demand. Of course I would love an all vegan grocery store...

As for the variety amongst stores - I have experienced a lot of it. In MA there are quite a few WFM. One of the newest is in a "yuppy" town called Hingham and it is really successful. I love it for their baked vegan goods: vegan scones and muffins of varying flavors (but no lemon poppyseed like downtown Austin and I think that is my all time favorite), cookies (chocolate chip, molasses, double chocolate chip), pecan pie, chocolate cake, choclate and "vanilla" cupcakes - I am sure there are a few more, but I am drawing a blank right now. The "vanilla" cupcakes were intially only at a store in Brighton, but since coming back from TX they have appeared at the Hingham location, yummy! They also do really good pies around holidays. As I am writing this I am wondering if they do not do more b/c of Dhaba Joy (which might not be true, but would be pretty cool - not putting the little guy out of business. We do not have anything like that near our WFMs). We also had the vegan chicken salad at that location (maybe a different kind from the above posting). To be honest I did not really like it  - I think because it seemed to real to me with the bigger pieces and texture.

I wonder if they are trying to retain a "unique" quality in each store - so that you can't just expect to go to the fresh food section of any WFM and find the same thing. I agree that it would be nice sometimes if you could find that thing you love (lemon poppyseed muffins and vanilla cupcakes for me!), but then again  there is something kind of nice about variety...
Craig? Posted at 2008/04/10 10:29pm reply to

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well, I shop at Whole Foods and all, but I have ZERO respect for John Fuckie.  I mean, by the same logic, I could open a hamburger joint and claim that making it vegan wouldn't be "fiscally appropriate".  of course it wouldn't, but obviously he's made his peace with accepting blood money - at the same time touting things he must not even believe in himself, like "free range" and "humanely slaughtered" meat.  if he was REALLY ok with that shit, he'd eat the stuff he sells in his store.  something very VERY hypocritcal about a vegan who sells meat.

I will, however, agree with you on the point that he's raised awareness about animal welfare in the United States.  this may be all we can hope for in the short run, but if we don't move towards animal rights instead of welfare, Americans are going to be content eating "happy meat" until they die of hypertension and colon cancer.

and as far as them being concerned about the little guy, i.e. Dhaba Joy - I can almost guarantee, John Fuckie isn't aware they exist.  he's too busy making hot sex to his blood money.

AND ANOTHER THING, no, I'm kidding.  rant over.
jen Posted at 2008/04/10 10:48pm reply to

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>>and as far as them being concerned about the little guy, i.e. Dhaba Joy - I >>can almost guarantee, John Fuckie isn't aware they exist.  he's too busy >>making hot sex to his blood money.

AHAHAH!  agreed!  especially considering all the little guys whole foods bought out as soon as they became just large enough to be competition.

also i do agree that whole foods has raised the bar for your general consumer.  organic is now trendy...and it's one of the smartest trends going.  who cares if it's some yuppie buying it...that yuppie is helping to keep organic farming profitable.

i really do like shopping at whole foods and i know we have so much to be thankful for here in austin at whole foods and elsewhere...it's just i do get frustrated sometimes because it is the flagship store and although it is very vegan friendly, i feel like it should be the vegan friendliest whole foods out there :-)

jen Posted at 2008/04/16 12:03am reply to

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okay!  the verdict is in on the chicken not chicken salad mix.  and....drum roll please..it's good!  yay!  i think it's something that if i had too often i might not like, but we had it for dinner tonight and we both were impressed.  there are two options on how to make it.  one with all mayo and the second with 3/4 mayo and 1/4 bbq sauce.  i chose the bbq sauce option and added celery.

it's $7 a pop but makes a large quantity.  between bryan and i, 3 sandwiches were consumed for dinner and there is plenty left for both of us for lunch tomorrow, so $7 ain't bad.

warning, don't try the little chicken chunks after reconstituting, before adding mayo.  it's actually pretty nasty and i was totally afraid it was going to be a bust.  something magical happens though when you add veganaise :-)

here's a link for those intrigued:

http://www.veganessentials.com/catalog/chickennot-salad-mix.htm
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