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Savannah Posted at 2008/03/06 1:09pm reply to

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Ok so, as much as I like Austin...I feel like I'm needing change. I've heard that Portland is great and very vegan friendly. Has any body been/lived there? I was looking on CL and theres like 6 different sections( I dont want to end up in Portland version of Cedar Park lol)...what section is the good section?

Any input would be appreciated...So what do ya'll think/know of Portland?
Diogenes Posted at 2008/03/06 3:57pm reply to

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Portland is great! and its been number one most veg friendly city for a long time. My uncle and Aunt just moved there a couple years ago and love it. I would move there if my girlfriend didnt have such a problem with the cold weather there.. plus her family is near austin and thats important.. but yeah.. portland is a vegan wet dream..
peter Posted at 2008/03/06 6:02pm reply to

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I haven't been there, but I've looked into eventually moving there myself. So I've got some info. I've heard a lot of pros and a few cons. Similar to Austin, it's a very popular "hip" city that's growing rapidly and increasingly dominated by young people, but even more so - gentrifying yuppies and hipsters, 20- and 30-somethings, make up a huge portion of the populace. Plus the schools suck, so it's cool if you're young, but not so cool for raising a family. It's cheap for the West Coast but pricier when you compare it to Austin or most other non-coastal cities. Not nearly as diverse as Austin, about 80% white. Like Austin, the music and art scenes kick ass. Very progressive town, recycling and environmentalism are the norm. There are a lot of really nice natural areas in the region as a whole. Extremely vegan-friendly, better than Austin and on par with the Bay Area and NYC, with not only quantity of options but quality and diversity as well. Weather's good if you prefer cooler temps and don't mind the constant drizzle and overcast skies during the long winters. Summers are beautiful, though - while we're sweating in 100 degree heat, they're enjoying sunshine and 70 degrees. Public transportation and biking are way better than Austin and other cities, but nothing compared to Boston or NYC. An important point to make is the economy: it sucks. Unlike Austin, there is no overarching industry that supplies decent jobs, so Portland is primarily existing on it's own hype.

So there are a few negatives to take in with the positives. But overall, it's a pretty cool place for a young vegan treehugger. I would also point out that the hipster indie kids usually reside in the Southeast quandrant, while the yuppies usually inhabit the NW and SW neighborhoods, especially the Pearl. If you're looking for an equivalent for 78704, search in 97214 or 97202.

I would especially like to reiterate that I haven't visited yet, just like how I rant about Austin even though I've been away for a couple years, so take my words with a grain of salt. Things may be off a bit or may have changed. I understand that me knowing all this without even visiting, let alone living there, may come off as funny and/or bizarre. I guess living in Galveston has just made me really desire a different location! :-D

Here are some links. You may have looked at some already:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland,_Oregon
http://wikitravel.org/en/Portland_%28Oregon%29
http://www.happycow.net/north_america/usa/oregon/portland/index.html
http://www.foodfightgrocery.com - awesome all-vegan grocery in SE Portland. You can shop online, too.
http://www.powells.com - largest independent bookstore, flagship location in downtown Portland.
http://www.wweek.com - local alt-weekly, their version of the Chronicle.
http://www.oregonian.com - their version of the Statesman.
http://maps.google.com - it's one of the "Street View" cities.


EDIT: Oh yeah, the state income tax is high (but there's no sales tax) and it's in one of two states where you can't pump you're own fuel.

Gabriel Posted at 2008/03/08 12:52pm reply to

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>EDIT: Oh yeah, the state income tax is high (but there's no sales tax) and it's in one of two states where you can't pump you're own fuel.
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I remember encountering that in NJ.  Very weird to me....
peter Posted at 2008/03/08 3:10pm reply to

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Yeah, totally ridiculous.
geoffreyv Posted at 2008/03/12 3:14pm reply to

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hi. this is a bit of an older discussion, but i'll bring it back up.

I lived in Portland for several years and yes, it is a very vegan friendly - bike friendly city. One of the most liveable cities in the US. Excellent farmer's market and dozens of all vegan or vegetarian restaurants / diners / cafes.

The area surrounding the city is absolutely beautiful. Not too far from the coast, the forests, the Columbia river gorge, Mount Hood, etc..

The cost of living is about on par with Austin, but Portland is probably one of the most well planned cities in the US. Very bikeable and walkable. Excellent public transit and affordable housing options. Not sure about jobs - it seemed to be good for some things (medical, university, environmental) and less good for other types of work.

Like Austin, it is quite provencial. Because how 'up there' it is, flights in and out can be pricey.


I would happily live there again.
geoffreyv Posted at 2008/03/12 3:19pm reply to

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I also want to add this link:

http://www.foodfightgrocery.com

It's a vegan convenience store / grocery in Portland. They have a lot of great links and is definitely worth a peek. happy
Craig? Posted at 2008/03/12 3:38pm reply to

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we all pray to Food Fight three times a day.
John Posted at 2008/03/12 4:22pm reply to

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it's unemployment rate has improved in recent years but is still pretty high. it's too bad that such a cool city has such a weak economy.

> Not sure about jobs - it seemed to be good for some things (medical, university, environmental) and less good for other types of work.
FATX Posted at 2008/03/12 7:35pm reply to

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Yah-just have one hell of a work ethic or a trustfund. I like Portland. I lived down the way in Salem because it was a lot cheaper. Salem sits right between Eugene and Portland. I found Salem a convenient but unsavory place. If your bag is strippers, meth or telecommunications it's great.
geoffreyv Posted at 2008/03/14 10:32am reply to

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I'm more of a strippers, crack and telecommunications man myself. So I'll pass.
FATX Posted at 2008/03/14 8:09pm reply to

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Umatilla, Oregon- Say hello to Diamond
geoffreyv Posted at 2008/03/15 6:16am reply to

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When we were feeling bored and adventurous my friends and I would scour the local suburb bars in search of Tanya Harding. Never found her.

*shakes fists in the air*

One day, Harding. One day...
FATX Posted at 2008/03/18 9:35pm reply to

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I hear they are making a bronze statue of Tanya Harding in Gresham.

I have an agent going to check out the new vegan strip club that opened up in Portland. She will return a full report-I hope.
Jessica. Posted at 2008/03/19 3:43pm reply to

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so brooklyn is losing another vegan to portland - http://theppk.com/blog/2008/03/17/ill-keep-it-short/

we will miss isa, but portland could really use her cooking. now that's one more reason for me to leave new york for austin!
geoffreyv Posted at 2008/03/19 7:24pm reply to

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>I hear they are making a bronze statue of Tanya Harding in Gresham.
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>I have an agent going to check out the new vegan strip club that opened up in Portland. She will return a full report-I hope.

I read about that. Weird. The guy also owned a vegan pirate restaurant that my friends said was wicked awful.

The idea of eating anything prepared in a strip club turns my stomach. I'm not a strip club kind of dude, vegan or not.  
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