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Catie Posted at 2007/03/09 9:15am reply to

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So, this my second day checking out this forum.  I looked for it because I don't actually know any other vegans.  My children are vegetarian (eat eggs and dairy) and husband is a meat eater.  When I met my husband I was a meat eater.  I was vegetarian by the time we were engaged and vegan at the end of my third pregnancy.  I've actually only been vegan for months.  I'm deciding to use up what I have and buy vegan new.

I'm curious of a couple of things.  First, are there any other parents on this board?  I'm looking for a pediatrician who isn't going to 20 question me or immediately give my children an iron test.  I'd like one who is going to fully examine them and not just diagnose them with "what's going around" and prescribe antibiotics.

I feel that we are all on our own path and our actions are our personal responsibility.  So, I have never actually tried to change anyone's eating habits.  I answer questions honestly when they are asked and they are always asked sincerly.  HOWEVER, I have experienced criticism from well-intentioned extended family members.  I often get the screwy faces or nose snubs at my tempeh (which I didn't offer to them in the first place) and in the same breath an offer for me or my children to eat the bacon they made.  Has anyone else had a similar exprience and what did you do?  Usually I just say, "I'm not asking you to go veg, so I think you should respect our diet and leave us alone".  Lucking, my husband is supportive and ready to throw down if anyone trieds to secretly give the kids meat.

Wow, sorry this is long.  I'm going down to Corpus this next week and will try to snatch my old Nintendo (no Mario Brothers, but I do have Paper Boy and the original Zelda).  If I can get it, I'll come to the pot luck on the 18th.  That is, if I have it in me to cross the river.  happy
mattabo71 Posted at 2007/03/09 10:41am reply to

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Welcome to the boards! I hope you will make it to the potluck, you don't need to have a nintendo to come!
There are a few parents in this group - -the most vocal being Craig   -so sound off Craig and give this fellow parent some advice!

It sounds like you are handling the criticism pretty well - and mad props to your husband for defending you and your family's choices - I've known other fathers who would sneak burgers and mcnuggets to their veg kids before they were old enough to speak for themselves -and that's pretty freakin lame.
Craig? Posted at 2007/03/09 12:10pm reply to

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Yay!  A fellow parent!  How old are your kiddos?  Vera needs some friends who aren't addicted to McDonalds!!

I'm afraid I don't have any veggie friendly pediatrician advice.  Its been years since my daughter has been to the doctor.  That's something I should look into as well.

As far as annoying family members go... yeah, that can be fun.  Luckily for me, my family has been really supportive about it.  Its been more on her mom's side that I've had the problem.  It got to the point where I was telling them Vera wasn't going to be allowed over there if they don't respect how we live.  Luckily for me, Vera has become a rather staunch vegan, and will gladly tell someone what she will and won't eat.

It's always really annoying to me when other people try and raise your kids for you.  I always tell them I have a couple of opinions on religion I'd be happy to share with their children if they don't leave mine alone.

Once people see you sticking with veganism (and don't think it's some phase you are going through) they will give you less shit about it.  Also, when they see that your kids are healthy and happy, they will back down a bit.  I still get the stuff from my grandmother sometimes, "Well, Craig, it was good enough for you!" (i.e. eating meat and christian elementary school)  That one is always tough, because I think they feel I'm attacking the way they raised me (which I suppose I am).  But, luckily for you, you have a meat eating husband who is supportive.  I think that is really important.  Vera's mom and I are both vegan, so it can turn in to a real "us versus them" type situation with family.  Having a meat eater come to your defense can be great when dealing with family.

I think your approach is really good though.  "Mind your own business."  Most people think not eating meat is trendy, hippie, and "against America" or something.  I think they think we can be an easy target, because there are so few of us.  Keep that vegan fist of resistance up in the air, sister!  Tell them to kiss your ass and go back to their own life of ignoring their kids and not dealing with their problems.  Well, maybe you don't want to be that mean.  I can be kind of an asshole at times.

But yeah, our kids should hang!  Mine is six, going on thirty five.  Interests include princesses, animals, and tofu with broccoli.... and chocolate I Scream.
Catie Posted at 2007/03/09 12:50pm reply to

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>Yay!  A fellow parent!  How old are your kiddos?  Vera needs some friends who aren't addicted to McDonalds!!

----My daughter Anevay is 6, my son Christian (not the religion) is 5, and the baby boy (Mateo, also a son, duh!) is 9mos.

I'm afraid I don't have any veggie friendly pediatrician advice.  Its been years since my daughter has been to the doctor.  That's something I should look into as well.

----I heard about Bee Cave Pediatrics from my midwife.  I haven't been there yet, though.

It got to the point where I was telling them Vera wasn't going to be allowed over there if they don't respect how we live.  Luckily for me, Vera has become a rather staunch vegan, and will gladly tell someone what she will and won't eat.

----My husband told my family pretty much the same thing.  That if he ever caught them trying to sneak meat to the kids, they would never be allowed to be alone with the children again.  That happened when Anevay was 4yo and began screaming and crying saying, "Granny just gave Christian bacon!"  Christian was 3yo at the time and had no idea what he asked for - just that his great-grandmother was eating it.  They've pretty left the kids alone for the most part, but have no problem telling me how grose my food looks.  Well, good, because I wasn't offering you any!  happy

>Also, when they see that your kids are healthy and happy, they will back down a bit.  I still get the stuff from my grandmother sometimes, "Well, Craig, it was good enough for you!"

----Yup, my children are healthier, generally, than the bulk of my extended family's children are.  You know, just yesterday I explained what lanolin was (as an example of a common ingredient in topical cosmetics, creams, shampoos, etc.) to a girlfiend who asked.  Then, I said, "I just wonder sometimes what exactly I'm putting on my children."  She said, "Well, they're fine!  Your kids are fine, aren't they?"  I said, "I don't know.  Maybe - Anevay has a slight case of eczema, Christian breaks out into heat rashes randomly.  I don't know what it could be.  Could it be the type of shampoo or laundry soap, etc. that I've been using?"  She had nothing.  And, I'm still learning.

>But, luckily for you, you have a meat eating husband who is supportive.  I think that is really important.  Vera's mom and I are both vegan, so it can turn in to a real "us versus them" type situation with family.  Having a meat eater come to your defense can be great when dealing with family.

----That's nice to hear.  I was curious what people were going to say about my meat eater husband.  Interestingly, I've felt mostly alone about being vegan.  I never thought of it the way you just put it.  Thank you.

Ummm... in case you hadn't figured it out, I tend to be a bit chatty.  I'm still very new to this, so I have a lot of questions and nobody to ask them to.  happy
Catie Posted at 2007/03/09 2:01pm reply to

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>Welcome to the boards! I hope you will make it to the potluck, you don't need to have a nintendo to come!

----Haha!  Nah, I just have one and if I can get my hands on it I'll bring it.  happy
  
>...and mad props to your husband for defending you and your family's choices - I've known other fathers who would sneak burgers and mcnuggets to their veg kids before they were old enough to speak for themselves -and that's pretty freakin lame.

----Yep, you're right, it is lame.  Maybe I'll bring him to the potluck.  happy
. Posted at 2007/04/06 7:17pm reply to

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I wanted to pass along some info I got from a woman I met at a PCRM event.  Her children are vegetarian and their pediatrician is Dr. Griggs.  According to her, he's open-minded about vegetarianism and he doesn't push vaccinations.  Here's his contact info:

Dr Griggs, Stephen R, MD - Pediatric Associates of Austin
1500 W 38th St Ste 20
Austin, TX 78731
512-458-5323
saintimothy Posted at 2007/04/08 12:32pm reply to

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i have a modified xbox that has 100's of original nintendo games on it.... if you have no luck, i can hook the kid up....

i will bring it if we show up.... keep us posted.....
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